When in #zt don't paste a long /whois output in the channel or /msg the ops there, just state the problem (clone flooding people in this case) and wait for someone to help you. Shouting (using caps), using colors, or otherwise flooding the channel with text will not get you help any faster, and is in fact likely get you kicked and ignored by the helpers there.
It's usually more effective to have some sort of flood protection, which usually means some sort of script for your client that acts to protect you automatically when you start getting flooded. Some people also just use the step of ignoring all CTCP, which certainly stops them getting flooded but also disables DCC. Try asking in a help channel devoted to your client, and also see section 5.
A K-line is a command line, which prevents particular user@host's from
connecting to a particular server. Some K-lines are on an entire provider, so if you are K-lined with the message "clonebots," (for example) it may not be you specifically that has been K-lined, rather your whole site or provider. K-lines are also used to force clients to use servers geographically closer to them as a way of balancing the load on the servers network wide.
A G-line is form of K-line set on all Undernet servers. Usually, G-lines last for one hour. This is used for persistent cloners and other abusers of IRC.
For more information about K and G-lines, see the K/G-line document on the documents website. (if it requires one). You can also use any combination of + modes and - modes in one line.
+o This is channel operator mode ("op" or "chanop" for short). An op has the ability to change other channel modes - basically you can't set
channel modes in a particular channel if you're not currently an op
there. Chanops also have the ability to kick (forcibly remove) people
from a channel, using /kick #channelname <nick> <reason>. So, Banjo
could do /kick #popsicle lamer no spamming allowed! which
results in lamer being removed from #popsicle and the following
*** lamer was kicked by Banjo (no spamming allowed!)
Any chanop can make someone else an op as well, and they will have
the same abilities in the channel as the channel op who opped him. Just type /mode #channel
+o <nick>, e.g., /mode #popsicle +o stoney`.
You can also op more than one person at a time:
/mode #popsicle +ooo bluesmurf papasmurf tallsmurf
Or deop some people and op others e.g.
/mode #popsicle +o-oo+o stoney` dumbsmurf lamesmurf papasmurf
Now the order of mode change letters becomes important, since the first
person specified gets opped, the second and third are deopped, and the
fourth is opped. This is because of the order of the mode changes -
modes are applied in order the arguments are given.
By the way, you should be careful in choosing who you op - don't op
just anyone, but also make sure the channel has enough ops in case some
are disconnected suddenly (for whatever reason), since the channel may
be left opless. If you op someone and they deop all the other ops,
then the channel has not been taken over, since they got ops
In this case, there is nothing you can do, so don't ask an IRCop for
help. Instead, learn to be cautious in who you op, and never op
someone just because their nick is that of your friend. Get into the
habit of remembering and recognising people by their addresses rather
than their nicks or any other way you work out so that you can positively
identify people you trust.
+n This mode means no external messages to the channel, i.e., you can't send a /msg to the channel without being inside it. For example, if
#popsicle is +n and cArLiLLoS, who's not in #popsicle, tries to send a message
using /msg #popsicle boo! scared ya!, he will get a message similar to
*** #popsicle Cannot send to channel
If a channel isn't +n, then you could /msg #channelname <text> and
it will appear inside the channel as if the person was saying it from
right inside -- this is somewhat spooky to see. Note that +n also
stops people from doing CTCPs to the entire channel unless they are
If #popsicle is -n, then it is possible to /ping #popsicle
without even being inside it.
As a general precaution against flooding,
and to stop people annoying you with ghostlike messages from outside
the channel, it's generally a good idea to set channels +n, and you
will find that almost all channels are set +n by their ops.
+t This mode means only ops can set or change the topic for the channel, using /topic #channel <topic>. If the channel is -t, then
anyone can change the topic, e.g., /topic #popsicle This is the place
for smurfs to chat and flirt!
+p Channel is private. When a /WHOIS is performed from outside on anyone in a private channel, the channel will not be displayed in the /WHOIS result. It won't be shown in a channel listing either.
Suppose banjo is in channels #userguide and also in #smurflove (which is a
private channel). If stoney` (who is not in #smurflove) does /whois
on Banjo, this will be the output
*** Banjo is firstname.lastname@example.org (I'm just cold.)
*** on channels: #userguide
*** Banjo using *.undernet.org The Undernet Underworld
*** Banjo End of /WHOIS list.
However, smurfette, who is in #smurflove with Banjo (*grin*), will
see the following channels listed instead because she is also in the
*** Banjo is email@example.com (I'm just cold.)
+s This means the channel is a secret channel, which is virtually identical to a private channel. It also does not show up in a channel
listing, and not in the /whois info unless the person doing the /whois
is also in that channel. The difference is that with private channels,
you can /who #channel to see who is inside, so if #smurflove was +p,
then stoney` could /who #smurflove to see that Banjo and smurfette
are inside (unless they have set themselves +i).
*** on channels #userguide #smurflove
*** Banjo using *.undernet.org The Undernet Underworld
*** Banjo End of /WHOIS list.
In a secret channel, this is not possible, since doing a /who #channel
does not reveal who is inside. Note that even with a private (+p)
channel, any people inside who are +i (invisible) will not show up in a
/who #channel listing. If you attempt to do a /who on a secret
channel, the server will not protest, but will merely send you an empty
+m This is a moderated channel, which means only ops can talk. Non-ops will get the response:
*** yournick` Cannot send to channel
Unless you are voiced on the channel.
+v This is for voice mode; it lets the person speak if the channel is moderated, even if they are not ops. Obviously a channel op need not
be +v since they can already speak (but it's possible to set +v on an
op anyway). If #popsicle is moderated (+m) then Banjo (who must be
an op) can let greysmurf talk by either making him an op or by /mode
#popsicle +v greysmurf. Someone with voice in a channel has a + before
their nick, similar to the way an op has an @ before their nick.
Some channels that are not moderated use the voice setting
to show who in the channel is a helper or a channel op who chooses not to
be oped at the time. A channel does not have to be moderated (+m) to "voice"
people and thus have a + in front of their nick.
+i This means the channel is invite-only, meaning you must explicitly be invited by an op of the channel, using /invite (nick) #channel before you can join the channel. If you are not invited, you will be unable to join the channel. So if
#popsicle was +i and Banjo (an op) wanted to let darksmurf join the
channel, he should /invite darksmurf #popsicle. Otherwise darksmurf
would get the following message if he tried to join:
*** #popsicle Cannot join channel (+i) (Invite only channel)
+l <value> This means that the channel is limited to a certain number of people. If Banjo wanted to limit #popsicle to 20 people at a
time, he would set /mode #popsicle +l 20. If cArLiLLoS then attempted
to join #popsicle when it already had 20 smurfs in it, he would get
the following message:
*** cArLiLLoS Can't join channel (channel is full)
+k <key> This means that the channel has a key, like a password, which is necessary to join the channel. If stoney` wanted to set
"brainysmurf" as the password to join the channel, he'd set /mode
#popsicle +k brainysmurf. If cArLiLLoS then wanted to join #popsicle,
he would have to do /join #popsicle brainysmurf. Note that to remove
a keyword (unlock the channel), you must specify the key. That is,
cArLiLLoS would have to set /mode #popsicle -k brainysmurf to undo the
channel's keyword status and permit entry without a password. If you
attempt to join a keyed channel without the key or use an incorrect
one, then you will get a message along the following lines:
*** #popsicle Cannot join channel (+k) (Bad channel key) or
+b This is the mode used to set a ban, which prevents a particular nick and/or address (nick!user@host) from entering the channel. A
banned person cannot enter the channel, or if already in the channel
when the ban is set, cannot speak, change nicks, or do any CTCP
(pings, versions, etc. to the channel). A ban is of the form /mode
#channel +b nick!user@host, e.g., /mode #popsicle ban
*** #popsicle can't join channel (requires the correct key)
Any "overlapping" bans will be removed by the server first. For
example, if you had banned *!*john@*.abc.com and *!*jane@*.xyz.com,
then if you ban *!*@*.com, those 2 bans will be removed, since the
*!*@*.com ban covers them, making them redundant.
Modes can be set on and off in one /mode command, and may be combined
at will, e.g., /mode #popsicle +mno-t+sl stoney` 10. This would set
the channel moderated, no external messages, op stoney`, anyone can
change topic, make it secret and limit the channel to 10 people. You
can see this by looking at the order of the modes given and the order
of the arguments specified. The first mode from the left which
requires an argument will use the first argument, the second will use
the second and so on. Don't worry if you don't understand all this
yet. It will come with time, and you can ask other people on IRC too.
+r Now available as a channel mode, sets the channel as restricted to registered users only. If the channel is set +r then a user who is not registered with CService, with a legitimate username, valid email address, and logged into X at the time, cannot enter the channel until +r is taken off ( set -r). This is used to restrict flooders and clones from the channel and allows only registered users to join.
This mode is set the same way any other mode is for a channel.../mode #Tidbits +r. This mode is for all channels, not just for registered channels (with @X).
Note: Most IRC clients (programs) automate many channel op functions. Consult your program's help files.
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4.1 What is a registered channel? What is X?
X is the Undernet Channel Service Comitee's (called CServiuce or CSC) bot. It is provided for established channels to provide channel stability. An established channel is one that has been running for some time and has enough channel traffic to need X. (For info about CService and X join #cservice or visit http://cservice.undernet.org
A registered channel is
one that has been registered with the Undernet Channel Service, and
has thus been granted the use of the channel service bot X.
What does X do?
X will keep your channel open for you by always being opped, even if no one is in the channel thus preventing channel takeovers. X is also used to maintain all channel modes set (so the channel doesn't lose the banlist, topic etc.), X also maintains a userlist of those who are channel ops. X also provides channel security because they enable you to always retake your channel if it gets taken over. X has the distinct advantage of being impossible to kick or deop by users not in it's user list), which makes it, and a channel with it, very secure indeed.
4.2 What's a username?
Before registering a channel, you need to have a registered username.
A username is how you are recognized by X in order to get ops in registered channels or apply to register or support the registration of a channel. A username doesn't need to be the same as your nickname and it doesn't mean you are registering your nickname (you can't register a nickname). Having a username will give you the ability to set yourself +x (host hiding) as explained in section 3.1
Note Host hiding protects you from denial of service attacks (DoS or nukes as they're sometimes called) as it will be impossible for anyone to find out you real user@host or IP address.
To register a username, you need to go to http://cservice.undernet.org/live . Click on "Register!" and CAREFULLY follow the instructions. You will have to supply a valid email address to register. Use your ISP email address where possible. Free email addresses are not allowed as they enable one person to register more than one username, which isn't allowed.
4.3 How can I register a channel?
You can register a channel at the cservice site at http://cservice.undernet.org/live. Just follow the instructions. It is a simple process. Just understand that you have to be patient. It takes awhile for the registration process to go through or be denied in either case.
You can read the Channel registration policy at http://cservice.undernet.org/live/regproc/aup.php.
Note that CService registers established channels only; the registration process is not for creating channels.
You will need 10 supporters for your registration application who are regular visitors of the channel who have already registered their usernames. For more information, ask in #cservice, or #userguide, or read about cservice at http://cservice.undernet.org.
If you just want to create a channel, type /join #channelname. If the
channel currently exists, you will join it. If it doesn't, it will be
created, and you will automatically be a channel operator for that
channel. So if smurfette wants to create a channel called
#beautyparlour, she can just /join #beautyparlour.
Note again, that if that channel is not registered or claimed by someone else you will be the sole operator in that channel. And then you would need to establish the channel (before trying to register it) by having your friends and supporters join and maintain the channel until it has enough traffic to qualify for the X channel bot.
Note also that Undernet does not support spamming of channels in any way and retribution, in the form of G-lines or being put on the "no registering channels list" if you spam in other channels to advertise yours.
If you have more questions or would like more information on channel
registration, drop into #cservice or #userguide and ask.
4.4 How do I know if someone is official CService personnel?
If you are wondering if someone is an official CSC (channel service committee) personnel, then typing /msg X verify <nickname> will result in one of the following responses:
If they are a CService admin:
-X- firstname.lastname@example.org is an Official CService Administrator and logged in as helper
If they are a CService helper:
-X- email@example.com is an Official CService Representative and is logged in as foxy
If someone is an Ircop as well as being a Cservice personnel, you will get the following response:
-X- firstname.lastname@example.org is an Official CService Representative and an IRCop and is logged in as doodles
If If it's not the case of above (neither an IRCop nor a Cservice personnel) and is just a normal user:
-X- email@example.com is logged in as <registered username here>
Also, if a person is NOT logged into X none of the above will help you because all you will get as a return is:
-X- firstname.lastname@example.org is NOT logged in.
Once again, if you are ever in doubt about whether someone is truly
official or CService personnel, just ask in #cservice, #userguide or #zt. Note that some
helpers are not necessarily official but can be trusted to help you,
and you will be told if this is so by the ops in #cservice, #userguide or #zt.
IMPORTANT!!! NEVER give your password to anyone claiming to be an IRCop or CSC representative, as the real ones will never ask you for it. If you think someone is impersonating a cservice official, you can report the user to #cservice. If someone is impersonating an IRCop, report them to #zt or any IRCop.
4.5 How can I tell if someone really is an IRC operator?
If someone is an IRC operator, their /whois information will show them to be one:
*** EvilCyn is email@example.com
You can also type /msg X verify <nick> to see if someone is an IRC op. For example, /msg X verify EvilCyn; produces:
*** on channels @#userguide
*** EvilCyn using *.undernet.org The Undernet Underworld
*** EvilCyn is an IRC Operator
*** EvilCyn End of /WHOIS list.
-X- EvilCynfirstname.lastname@example.org is an IRC Operator
Some people pretend to be IRC ops by putting "is an IRC operator" in various parts of their /whois info. Here is an example:
*** fakeoper is ~email@example.com (is an IRC op)
Note this person has "IRCop" as their username, has "is an IRC op"
in their IRCNAME, and "is an IRC Operator" in their away message.
These are 3 common ways of pretending to be an IRC operator. Note
that real IRC ops do not like people who pretend to be one, so if
you see someone pretending to be one, go to #ZT and mention it.
The verify command will always tell you if someone is an Undernet IRCop or cservice volunteer.
*** on channels @#fake
*** fakeoper using *.undernet.org The Undernet Underworld
*** fakeoper is away is an IRC operator
*** fakeoper End of /WHOIS list.
4.6 What is the difference between a CService admin and an IRC operator?
IRC ops are responsible for keeping the network running smoothly and maintaining the servers. IRCops are under no obligation to help opless channels or channels which have been taken over. While many IRCops do help users, they are not required to do so. Many IRCops work behind the scenes, maintaining the network, getting rid of floodnets, clones and abusive users, and taking care of the server they are responsible for and don't always have time to help users.
For more information about IRCops and what they do, see the oper FAQ on the documents project website.
CService Admins. and helpers are responsible for channel registration, X, usernames and #cservice. While the channel service committee (often called CSC or cservice) has nothing to do with running the servers or maintaining the network. There are some people who are both cservice personal and IRCops. Cservice works closely with IRCops in making sure that abusive users are removed from the network.
If you think you need to speak with an IRCop, join #ZT and explain the reason you need to speak with one. You must be patient when asking for help as the #ZT personal are usually busy helping others in private and no one is ignoring you. Never /msg anyone in #ZT, state your problem in the channel then wait for someone to help you.
4.7 I have a problem with X in a registered channel.
What should I do?
If you want to know what X commands are available to you, type /msg X showcommands.
If you don't know how to use a command, type /msg X help <commandName>.
For example if you needed help on the adduser command, you would type /msg X help adduser to get X's online help.
All users who are channel ops on registered channels are encouraged to read the X commands.txt file. You can download the X commands.txt from CService Documents and Forms section.
If you're not sure whether X is actually capable of doing what you want to do with it, ask in #cservice or #userguide. As you should have guessed by now, #cservice is the channel for X help and information on channel and username registration.
When asking questions in #cservice, please give the channel name, and tell if you have X or not and what access level you have so that you can be better helped.
Note that #cservice is NOT for general bot help or bot questions; it only deals with X, channel registration, usernames, and related topics. It is not for general help with IRC , #userguide is for that.
The volunteers in #userguide will be able to answer all your questions and/or direct you to where you can get the proper help you need.
Please remember that help channels can get very busy and the volunteers may be helping several people via private message, so be patient. Never message anyone in a help channel unless you are asked to do so. The best thing to do is state your problem or question and wait for someone to help you. If you are not helped after 5 minutes, then repeat you question or problem.
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Where can I get general help with IRC?
The answer to this depends on what kind of help you want.
If you are new to IRC, then #userguide would be a good place to start with your questions. If you don't get the answers you need there, you will be directed to the proper channel or website.
There are many channels that deal with specific topics and their channel name will often be that topic. For example if you are looking for help with a program (such as your IRC client), try joining that channel. If you use theBestChat (not a real IRC client) for IRC, you may try joining #thebestchat channel. If that channel exists, your search may be over.
As a general guide, if you have a problem with X, a registered channel, or usernames then ask in #cservice. If you want to report abusive users or need help in a channel, then #ZT is the channel to join. If you have any other problems or questions, join a general help channel such as #userguide.
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6.1 Where can I get a list of Undernet servers?
You can get an up to date list of servers along with their port connects, Admins, IRCops and server information at http://www.undernet.org/servers.php.
6.2 Which servers allow bots?
The best way to find out is to read the server's message of the day (MOTD), which many clients automatically display when you connect to the server.
Typing /motd will display the MOTD of the server you are connected to.
It will usually display the server's bot policy and other information.
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7.1 What should I do if someone is harassing me?
If someone is harassing you, get their address and /ignore it.
If Banjo wanted to ignore stoney`, then banjo would first get stoney`'s user@host by doing a /whois stoney`.
Suppose stoney` is firstname.lastname@example.org.Then Banjo could type /ignore *!*stoney`@*.mushouse.com
Now suppose stoney` is using Undernet's host hiding feature, stoney` is email@example.com. Typing /ignore *!*@stoney.users.undernet.org will ignore everyone who's username is stoney.
Since only one person can have the username stoney, only he will be ignored.
Many IRC programs have ways to streamline the ignore process and set wildcards (the *) for you. Consult your IRC client's help files.
Remember, /ignore is a powerful and effective tool. When you ignore someone, you don't see what they say on channels you're in, you don't see any messages or notices from them, you don't receive DCC send or chat requests, and you won't get CTCP (pings, versions, etc.) from them either. In short, they are basically GONE from IRC from your point of view.
The ignore command is an IRC client command not a server command. Your IRC client/s help files will show you how to set and remove /ignore.
This is the method of choice for dealing with people who harass you or annoy you excessively, and much better than asking someone else to do something about it for you.
7.2 What can I do if someone has my nick?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing. The fact is that it isn't your nick.
There is no nick ownership on the Undernet. If you want, you can try
asking the person using it to let you have it, but they are under no
obligation to do so. If they refuse to give it up, then that is
tough luck. Your IRC friends should learn to recognise you by your
address (or username if you choose to register one) or via personal
information only you would know rather than your nick for this reason.
7.3 I have this problem in a particular channel. Where should I go for help?
The first thing is to check whether the channel is a registered channel, i.e., does it have X it? If so, then #cservice is the channel to ask what can be done about your problem.
If it's an unregistered channel, ask in #userguide or #zt. CService will not op you in a registered channel - it is the responsibility of the channel manager to control his channel, either directly or through those he appoints to be channel operators.
If there are no ops there, then you'll just have to live with it. Use /ignore if someone is bothering you.
7.4 I was kicked and/or banned from a channel for NO reason!! What can I do?
Nothing -- On Undernet, and most IRC networks, channel ops have complete control over their channel. A channel op can kick or ban you for any reason or for no reason. Each channel on Undernet makes it's own rules. Neither Cservice, IRCops or server administrators will interfere with how individual channels are run. Anyone is free to begin their own channel or join another channel. You can also try contacting the channel owner or another channel op who may or may not discuss your situation with you.
7.5 What should I do if we have no ops in our channel?
If the channel has only a few people, and you trust them all, get everyone to leave, then have a designated person rejoin. Since they are re-creating the channel, the first one to join will be opped.
If this is not feasible because there are many people or because you have bots in the channel, then go to #ZT, and ask politely (without shouting) for an IRCop to op you or someone else in your channel, then wait patiently for someone to help you. Note that the whole channel must agree on someone to be opped, otherwise no-one will be opped and the channel will be left to stay opless.
If there is some form of proof that someone is usually an op on the channel, be prepared to show that proof as well as an explanation how the channel lost ops.
Remember, IRCops are under no obligation to op anyone on any channel.
7.6 Someone is using a channel or Undernet for illegal activity, what can I do?
Please seek for help and guidance about this issue on #userguide.
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8.1 How do I become an IRC operator? or I'm interested in running my own Undernet server. How can I do that?
IRC Operators are chosen for their abilities at running servers, routing the network, knowledge of IRCu, and trustworthiness. There is no form, mailing list, or person to ask, and there is no list of future operators.
Normally, the way one becomes an operator is to be chosen by a server administrator, and display a working knowledge of IRCu, routing issues, and various other "behind the scenes" aspects of an operator's "life".
The /kills, channel mode changes, etc. that are visible to users are a small part of the many duties of an IRCop.
For information on just what an IRC operator does, just click here. This is an extremely helpful document that outlines all the various duties which an IRC operator performs on a day-to-day basis.
As of this writing, the minimum requirements for linking a server to Undernet is a dedicated machine running 24 hours, 7 days a week and a MINIMUM of MULTIPLE E1/T1 to SEPARATE providers. Single-homed 10mbps or higher speeds may apply, however multiple T-3/OC-3/DS-3 connections are preferred.
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You must be running the latest Undernet IRCd (no windows machines allowed).
If you would like the latest information, as well as instructions for applying for a test link to Undernet, please go to the following web page http://www.routing-com.undernet.org
9.1 What mailing lists are available for the Undernet? And what are they for?
All the mailing lists, listed below are to help you, the user if answer various questions about all aspects of Undernet. The volunteers are trained to answer inquiries from newbies, people who are new to IRC asking the basic questions or having basic problems related to IRC to the most experienced IRC user.
Most Undernet committees have their own mailing lists for their members to use. If you want to help out, and you are thinking about joining an Undernet committee, you can find a complete list of contact addresses on the main Undernet site http://www.undernet.org, by clicking on committees.
Not all Undernet committees are open lists, or lists that anyone can join. To find out if a committee allows users to subscribe to their lists, email the committee/s and ask about their policies.
The following is a list of addresses users can email as well as the list's functions
The Volunteers on #userguide, the Undernet User Committee user help channel, will me happy to answer your questions and/or direct you to the proper place. #userguide is also a great place to discuss ways to make Undernet better. The channel is a great place to have your voice heard, so feel free to join the channel anytime.
Help is easy to find if you are patient and direct with your questions. Please refrain from emailing several lists at a time with the same question. If one list can't help you, or thinks you would be better helped by another committee, they will refer you to the proper people or list or just forward your email to the proper list. And again, be patient, as all the email lists are manned by volunteers who may have to read and reply to hundreds of emails daily.
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You haven't helped me. Where should I look?
Your IRC client's help files can be a good source of general IRC information as well as showing you how to get the most out of your IRC program.
The documents project site has a wealth of information, and the various help channels are manned by knowledgable people who will do their best to assist you. If you have any suggestions for new documents or FAQs, you are encouraged to email firstname.lastname@example.org with your suggestions.
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